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	<description>About art</description>
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		<title>Comment on Art Funding by Jill Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello toby,
I am writing because we are starting a new gallery and boutique and having an organization ge-together idea-gathering on Mar. 28 at 10:00 at the Dean Apartments-where the Terra Bella Gallelry and Boutique will be: would you like to come?email me: I haven&#039;t got your email but have this site so if at all interested, let me know,
thanks,Jill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello toby,<br />
I am writing because we are starting a new gallery and boutique and having an organization ge-together idea-gathering on Mar. 28 at 10:00 at the Dean Apartments-where the Terra Bella Gallelry and Boutique will be: would you like to come?email me: I haven&#8217;t got your email but have this site so if at all interested, let me know,<br />
thanks,Jill</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should tagging be a crime? by tobyteneyckart</title>
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		<dc:creator>tobyteneyckart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points...one of the better ways to keep graffiti off of places where it does not belong is to have offenders clean up their mess...it&#039;s been found that in schools were the students help with cleaning the schools are in much better shape...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points&#8230;one of the better ways to keep graffiti off of places where it does not belong is to have offenders clean up their mess&#8230;it&#8217;s been found that in schools were the students help with cleaning the schools are in much better shape&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should tagging be a crime? by philosophicalbard</title>
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		<dc:creator>philosophicalbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a lot of cases graffiti looks really cool (such as skate parks and the sides of old buildings). If that&#039;s the case, I really don&#039;t think it should be a crime, as long as it isn&#039;t racist, sexist, hateful, or otherwise obscene. However, graffiti has no place on commercial buildings most of the time. If the offender is caught, perhaps they should be required to reimburse the company whose building they defaced.
This is  a tricky subject. Good post. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a lot of cases graffiti looks really cool (such as skate parks and the sides of old buildings). If that&#8217;s the case, I really don&#8217;t think it should be a crime, as long as it isn&#8217;t racist, sexist, hateful, or otherwise obscene. However, graffiti has no place on commercial buildings most of the time. If the offender is caught, perhaps they should be required to reimburse the company whose building they defaced.<br />
This is  a tricky subject. Good post. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Art in the World &#8212; Up or down? by Brian Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats on the art show!  You have some great work--I&#039;ve always been jealous of people with visual artistic talent.

Welcome to the blogosphere too.  I started blogging last year as part of a fundraiser (www.lupusrunner.org).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on the art show!  You have some great work&#8211;I&#8217;ve always been jealous of people with visual artistic talent.</p>
<p>Welcome to the blogosphere too.  I started blogging last year as part of a fundraiser (www.lupusrunner.org).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Civility by Mike</title>
		<link>http://tobyteneyckart.wordpress.com/2007/05/10/31/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often find such books to be useful (in the vein of cultural comment or cultural criticism such as Neil Postman) even if they turn out to have flaws in their seams... That is, they may not actually hold up as theory, but can be useful polemics to get people to think about cultural values.  I&#039;ve certainly picked up a number related to the question of civility, from Sennett to Lynn Truss&#039; &quot;Talk to the Hand&quot; and there arises the question of whether such books are actually cathartic or whether they merely instill and reinforce patterns of selective perception.

Many people seem to feel better after &quot;venting&quot; or hearing others share and express the same complaints and concerns, but on the other hand it&#039;s hard to know whether that helps to place various concerns in their correct proportions; to accurately perceive the good along with the bad, the positive along with the flaws.  In mass media consumption, for example, many of those who claim to benefit from a cathartic effect haven&#039;t actually compared the effects from alternative conditions.  They see Rambo kicking butt, or Michael Douglas &quot;Falling Down&quot; and feel somehow vindicated despite the lack of realism and contrived nature of those scenarios, but it&#039;s possible that such &quot;vindications&quot; merely feed their long-term dissatisfactions rather than alleviate them.  Although there is value in dialogue, one of the questions to eventually be dealt with is that regarding which things are beyond our control - even in the collective sense - and therefore might be better to accept (through a new definition of the situation) rather than to criticize and protest.

My 2.5 cents...  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often find such books to be useful (in the vein of cultural comment or cultural criticism such as Neil Postman) even if they turn out to have flaws in their seams&#8230; That is, they may not actually hold up as theory, but can be useful polemics to get people to think about cultural values.  I&#8217;ve certainly picked up a number related to the question of civility, from Sennett to Lynn Truss&#8217; &#8220;Talk to the Hand&#8221; and there arises the question of whether such books are actually cathartic or whether they merely instill and reinforce patterns of selective perception.</p>
<p>Many people seem to feel better after &#8220;venting&#8221; or hearing others share and express the same complaints and concerns, but on the other hand it&#8217;s hard to know whether that helps to place various concerns in their correct proportions; to accurately perceive the good along with the bad, the positive along with the flaws.  In mass media consumption, for example, many of those who claim to benefit from a cathartic effect haven&#8217;t actually compared the effects from alternative conditions.  They see Rambo kicking butt, or Michael Douglas &#8220;Falling Down&#8221; and feel somehow vindicated despite the lack of realism and contrived nature of those scenarios, but it&#8217;s possible that such &#8220;vindications&#8221; merely feed their long-term dissatisfactions rather than alleviate them.  Although there is value in dialogue, one of the questions to eventually be dealt with is that regarding which things are beyond our control &#8211; even in the collective sense &#8211; and therefore might be better to accept (through a new definition of the situation) rather than to criticize and protest.</p>
<p>My 2.5 cents&#8230;  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Civility by Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 05:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toby,

One of the most radical shifts in understanding I&#039;ve had since starting the program here is the concept that &#039;society&#039; is so fluid that it is in fact being destroyed and created on a continual basis; the only static cultures are ones in history books.  So, both individual memory, and collective memory, are selective and reinterpreted over and over again.  I think about a comment I heard once that &quot;...the Roman Empire didn&#039;t collapse so much as it faded, it is not as though Rome&#039;s inhabitants ceased to be at a precise moment in time....&quot;  It makes me think of Finkelstein&#039;s &quot;The Way Things Never Were&quot; about how &#039;the good ol&#039; days&#039; are somewhat of a fabrication.

While our conceptualization of America may lead us to conclude that it is in decline, is it possible that a younger generation coming of age may view their culture&#039;s place in the world entirely different such that, to them, &quot;we&quot; are not in decline or decay but in ascension toward a future that holds vastly different opportunities (probably ones that we would have difficulty realizing)?

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toby,</p>
<p>One of the most radical shifts in understanding I&#8217;ve had since starting the program here is the concept that &#8217;society&#8217; is so fluid that it is in fact being destroyed and created on a continual basis; the only static cultures are ones in history books.  So, both individual memory, and collective memory, are selective and reinterpreted over and over again.  I think about a comment I heard once that &#8220;&#8230;the Roman Empire didn&#8217;t collapse so much as it faded, it is not as though Rome&#8217;s inhabitants ceased to be at a precise moment in time&#8230;.&#8221;  It makes me think of Finkelstein&#8217;s &#8220;The Way Things Never Were&#8221; about how &#8216;the good ol&#8217; days&#8217; are somewhat of a fabrication.</p>
<p>While our conceptualization of America may lead us to conclude that it is in decline, is it possible that a younger generation coming of age may view their culture&#8217;s place in the world entirely different such that, to them, &#8220;we&#8221; are not in decline or decay but in ascension toward a future that holds vastly different opportunities (probably ones that we would have difficulty realizing)?</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>Comment on Art Markets by tobyteneyckart</title>
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		<dc:creator>tobyteneyckart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 23:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cherie:

I like the way you think...making this world &quot;more exquisite&quot; would be very much appreciated!  I think it is unfortunate that such a fine line exits between the artist as artist and artist as marketeer...the making and consuming of art should never be forced by or upon someone else...

Toby</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cherie:</p>
<p>I like the way you think&#8230;making this world &#8220;more exquisite&#8221; would be very much appreciated!  I think it is unfortunate that such a fine line exits between the artist as artist and artist as marketeer&#8230;the making and consuming of art should never be forced by or upon someone else&#8230;</p>
<p>Toby</p>
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		<title>Comment on Art Markets by Cherie Langkabel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cherie Langkabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 18:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your ideas. Do we do what it takes to get art out there? I think it depends on what the artist is trying to invoke in others. Whether they are trying to get their name and face out there to feel accomplished/proud/famous/etc... to make a living (which can be understandable in the world we live in today) versus revealing something important that has nothing to do with being recognized (a feeling...a thought...an imagination... that nothing else can give to us EXCEPT for art itself) 

And we all interpret art differently, which makes it even more incredible to &quot;get art out there&quot;. By &quot;giving art away&quot; could possibly make this world much more exquisite by invoking all of these different perceptions, thoughts, feelings and ideas into different individuals...no matter their circumstance and role. After all, every person has these attributes inside of them. It may just take a piece of wonderful art to bring it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your ideas. Do we do what it takes to get art out there? I think it depends on what the artist is trying to invoke in others. Whether they are trying to get their name and face out there to feel accomplished/proud/famous/etc&#8230; to make a living (which can be understandable in the world we live in today) versus revealing something important that has nothing to do with being recognized (a feeling&#8230;a thought&#8230;an imagination&#8230; that nothing else can give to us EXCEPT for art itself) </p>
<p>And we all interpret art differently, which makes it even more incredible to &#8220;get art out there&#8221;. By &#8220;giving art away&#8221; could possibly make this world much more exquisite by invoking all of these different perceptions, thoughts, feelings and ideas into different individuals&#8230;no matter their circumstance and role. After all, every person has these attributes inside of them. It may just take a piece of wonderful art to bring it out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Interesting times by tobyteneyckart</title>
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		<dc:creator>tobyteneyckart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are always welcome to come by (either in person or virtually)...keep in touch...

Toby</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are always welcome to come by (either in person or virtually)&#8230;keep in touch&#8230;</p>
<p>Toby</p>
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		<title>Comment on Interesting times by Valerie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toby,

Yes, I would agree, and you are right, like most things, it isn&#039;t that simple. But I think the first step to challenging anything is to realize the problem.  We sociologist types will always notice certain things others may not, but I am sure there are things I miss too.. but even if that is the case, I wouldn&#039;t change it.

I find it refreshing at times.

Keep painting and sharing,
My hubby and I just bought our first home, I may be hitting you up for something special soon!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toby,</p>
<p>Yes, I would agree, and you are right, like most things, it isn&#8217;t that simple. But I think the first step to challenging anything is to realize the problem.  We sociologist types will always notice certain things others may not, but I am sure there are things I miss too.. but even if that is the case, I wouldn&#8217;t change it.</p>
<p>I find it refreshing at times.</p>
<p>Keep painting and sharing,<br />
My hubby and I just bought our first home, I may be hitting you up for something special soon!!!</p>
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